I strongly believe Cain already had a wife with him before getting into Nod. Genesis 1:1 introduces the creation of the universe and 1:2 focuses in on the earth in its initial state. "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. Sometime in the beginning someone had to have sexual relations with his sister for pedigree sake. Adam may have been the first to know God. It centers on the Land of Eden. As for the ability of generations to pass stories along by mouth and accurately this has in fact been demonstrated by anthropologists studying other cultures not Near Eastern ones. Come on. So, domestication is right there, in Genesis one, with the first man (Adam). the Bible doesnt give us the information of it because its God minded not to reveal the secret. Cain married his own (younger) sister! You should consult preferably neutral sources. These oral traditions were blended with well know stories and written material borrowed from the regions dominant Mesopotamian culture. Vote Up It seems to suggest they were already married and that they began having children after settling in Nod. Later however, Moses commanded close intermarriages between members of the same family to be prohibited (see Leviticus 18:6-17). Like todays Torah service in a traditional Jewish Shabbat service the text was read aloud at an auience. If you think about it, that is the only way to populate the world, starting with only one pair. But Mahalaleel, when he was grown up, loved Required fields are marked *. They do not come up and inundate the land; neither do they fly off into space. Sign up to receive our email newsletter and never miss an update. From the bibles explanation, Cain knew his wife and had a son means that Cain slept with his wife and had a son. Jesus appears to believe Genesis literally since He quoted from the book nearly 30 times. So the wives of Cain, Henoch, Noah etc. http://www.pnas.org/content/112/39/12075.full, Domestic Dogs 33,000 and 36,000 Yrs. They, like the first couple, were also formed together as one body and then became two. Your claim that ish and ishshah are only used for humans is wrong. I think the author has overlooked the main context of the creation story and is simply trying to fit it into our understanding of a modern long geological age earth. In Genesis 2 God puts Adam to work with plants. All of mankind is mortal and doomed to eternal death without the atoning blood of Christ. . No, Cain was Adam's oldest son and Abel's brother (Genesis We do not know how old Cain was when he murdered Abel or his age at marriage. Adam and Eve werent the only people existing in the Genesis story but they were the first parents of mankind, in my own understanding of the OT, there are others who werent mentioned in the narrative of the Genesis. So, why would they not accept that Adam was originally created from dust? The answer is in the Book of Jubilees the sixth most frequent manuscript discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls. There is also the fact God had to breathe life into the newly produced body of Adam (Gen. 2:7). Mrs Cain was a pre-historic womanOh evolution is not incorrect, but, Adam and Eve were special creations, with a living soulpre-historic man, not at all. The bible says that Adam & Eve had other sons and daughters. 3. Genesis tells us where Cain went to a city he named Enoch. The appellative Form is also used for the other creatures and plants, without any creationist ever demanded only two individuals at the beginning of each kind. http://holybooks.lichtenbergpress.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/Babylonian-Talmud.pdf, Midrash Rabbah, Bereshith, Ch. He is a creator, and Im sure has created many things that we have no idea aboof or even a concept of. I live from breath to breath We can only wonder how many female children they had. The Bible reminds us that we return to dust when we die. 100 September 7, 2018 at 8:56 AM So sin and death, cos death is a reaction to action, a consequence of sin must be older than Adam, because the serpent must have fallen first. The fact that Cain was religious like his brother Abel reminds us that this tale is still revelant due to the fratricide occuring presently between people of the same race adhering to diverse religious beliefs. Cain married his own sister at nod because the bible was not mention woman name at that time it was not prohibiter to marry your sister. In that the failure of the son of God, Adam, all fell, through Jesus, the unfallen son of God we are redeemed. But Im optimistic that their doctrine will fizzle out gradually. Maybe. Who were the other people that could kill Cain? In Genesis 1:24, God orders the earth (in Hebrew Aretz) to produce living creatures of all kind and with a careful reading we can understand that it includes also human being. Lilith, Adam wasnt created at all, yatsar bara. I have written a longer response to what you said in your last post, but here I want to stick to the single pair discussion. What exactly do you see as different between your preadamites and Adamites? Homo sapiens sapiens (we humans) have been around for about 100,000 years. If you want more credible answers for Bible stories, look to the Ancient Pagan texts The Holy Bible is kind of the Jewish knock off. The nephesh hayyah (soul of the living), the lesser of the two, was formed from the earth when Adam was created, and it has a terrestrial, physical origin in every man (p.708). Cain was a farmer, but Abel was a rancher. I told you that in the flood account it is also used for animals (Genesis 7:2). days drew near. For my part I believe the bible story of creation has scientific and historical support, if you take a critical view of our modern take on long ages. Report Lastly, we find zakar and neqebah and ish and ishsha are used interchangeably for the individual mating pairs which entered the ark. Yatsar refers to the molding and shaping of an object. 1. Genesis 5:4 says nothing about the timing of the daughters, and the sons may simply have been refering to Cain, Abel and Seth. Yes they both were of multiple births. Who cares? Things may have turned out differently should Cain have repented, accepted his punishment without complaint, and moved when The Lord said Move.(i.e. This very example sufficiently shows, how much the proponents of the traditional exegesis have to bend the biblical texts to continue harping on their string. To love one another is to fulfill all of the commandments. If you dont want your precious closed minded, preconceived and superstitious notions and beliefs challenged only read publications put out by your own church. Not only that zakar & neqebah have different meanings as isch & ischah, the preadamic way of life is also different from the adamic. Facts before speculation. Wake up people God would want us to live in perfect harmony, eating the fruits and vegetables that grow from the earth, keeping our children protected and raising them to make the world a better place. Cain and Abel. ESV - Catch up with Candices scriptural studies at her blogWordwell.ca. Report, October 28 2014 The same scenario was repeated after the flood since there were only 4 couples to repopulate the earth. Eve is the wife of Cain .Why Bible was not mentioned her name? PLEASE Read the.book of Moses in the pearl of great price. And in the first (year) of the third jubilee, Cain slew Abel because (God) accepted the sacrifice of Abel Besides, Deans argument seems to be that Adam and Eve had NO daughters. Mervyn, Why all the speculation when we already have the answer long before the question? One guy from the 1500s does not count. It has been suggested that the vicinity of Beer Lachai Roi (Well of the Seeing One) where the angel appeared to Hagar, had become a shrine to which Isaac visited when he was meditating (suach) in the field in Genesis 24:62 (Meditation and the Bible, by Aryeh Kaplan, p.101). In the first chapter, adam is just an appellative name for the entire mankind. Does the devil have power to make us sick? All descendants not of Adams line would not have been eligible for forgiveness, but they would have still been subject to the condemnation of creation. 3. world into believing the bible is about them when it isnt. Earlier I showed that the male and female of Genesis 1 were the Adam and Eve of Genesis 2-5. So Can married one of his own sisters. Men have less ribs than females. X By the way, this means Eve didnt come from a womb either. If the Bible is not meant to be taken literally then I assume you also dont believe in a literal God Not sure why you bother becoming a Pastor if you start of with not believing the foundation of the Bible. When God created the human race (Gen. 1.27), the Garden didnt even exist. the Bible doesnt give us the information of it because its God minded not to reveal the secret. These terms for soul and breath are used interchangably in the Old Testament, and in the Canaanite Tale of Aquat , Aquats murder at the hands of a drunken soldier is described in similar terms as Genesis 2:7: His breath escaped like wind, his soul like vapor, like smoke from his nostrils. The Adam of Genesis 2 represents our human potential before the fall, of which Jesus refered to when he said, He that excersizes faith in me, that one also will do the works that I do; and he will do works greater than these, because I am going my way to the Father (John 14:12). Combine a one-year tablet and print subscription to BAR with membership in the BAS Library to start your journey into the ancient past today! First of all, it is vitally important for the Christian to be able to answer this question, as it relates to defending the fact that all humans are descendants of Adam and Eve; and, secondly, that it is only their descendants that can be saved. The Bible does not teach a flat earth either. And dont forget all those ghosts,and other scary creatures.Depending on where and when you lived things can be very different .Humans have been commiting mass murder of those who have different beliefs and are still murdering to this day.Tens of Millions of people have been murdered in the name of Christainity based on the hate they learned from clergy. There were no other womenjust one woman, Eve. Yeeeaaaahhhh. It doesnt become truer thereby. Duh! Cain is a mythical figure. My book tells you all that, Historical Genesis from Adam to Abraham. to good. If we follow your interpretaion through, then Noah should have had daughters (Gen. 5:30). I usually run into those who try to claim that the Bible teaches and the ancient Jews believed in a flat earth. VII, GEMARA, pg, 130 1:1; Jn. So when Adam was banished He married a lesser person one of the people created without God full Breath. Hear what I say, you wives of Lamech. Adamah is the ground with the fitting consistency to Farm. To look logically (which many people will not or cannot do) and read sequentially, this task was impossible. For Cain to get a wife, he would have to had chosen one of his sisters for a wife. It restricted to the Near East, like almost everything from Gen. 2:5 on. The Bible literally says everyone descends from Adam and Eve. This also affects their witnessing to non-Christians; Third, for many non-Christians, this is a stumbling block hindering them from believing that they can trust the Bible as being a true record of history, from the first book, Genesis, onwards. Why do people who dont even believe that there was a literal person name Cain care about who he married? All humans are descendants of Adam and Eve. The en- prefix in En-och tells us he was a king in that city as that prefix means king. in both Akkadian and Sumerian. Look at how long everyone lived. As someone else has commented, it would be good if this site stuck to its title. How can a story teach faith if it did not actually happen? 5 The gap theory is unnecessary, because the creation days are already long periods, so it dont need another one in Gen. 1.2. Sounds like a lot of assumptions in her article which denigrate the Biblical record into a biased account of one of, in the authors eyes, just many people on the earth. By following its instructions man will acquire life in the future world. (p. 709). Biblical Archaeology Society []. Between 20,000 and 120,000 years ago there was no Persian Gulf. Well for all men to have 'inherited' death there would have to be just 1 Adam right? How do we know that Cain was not already married when he murdered Abel? Cain, a farmer, became enraged when the Lord accepted the offering of his brother, a shepherd, in preference to his own. Did agriculture begin in Paradise (Gen. 2:15) or after the expulsion? What other people? Genesis 19:13 says God sent angels to destroy the cities because the outcry to the LORD against its people [was] so great. After Lots family fled Gods destruction, his wife was turned into a pillar of salt as she looked back on the burning cities, and Lot found a cave for his daughters and him to rest in. Since she would be a bastard, there would be no problem them to heading off together to Nod/Land of Wandering, starting the Cain/Jew lineage. So he was himself cursed for cursing his brethren and family. Pretty much every name has a meaning, including country names. When God created Adam and Eve, they were perfect,, but, because of disobedience they lost perfection and died, (1 Timothy 2:13, 14), (Romans 5:12). On the way Tobias is directed by an angel to collect the Heart, Liver, and Gall of a fish. The story is only concerned with these two and then with Seth later. But the writer of the bible did assume that we could figure out that there were more children born to Adam and Eve, that is why when the lifespan verse of the Christ lineage males always say (and they begat sons and daughters; and they died). Could this be possible? If, on the other hand, God had created the first couple (Adam and Eve) in this manner could he not have repeated his masterpiece? In the course of time, Cain married his twin . She is portrayed as a bratty, snarky and cynical 9-year-old who fights with Sheldon for attention from their parents. knew his wife means that he slept with his wife there. I live to climb that mountain i actually have this as an assessment based assignment so please any more useful findings are very appreciated. All that holds good. Which says that Cain married his own twin sister. read the second book of Adam and Eve chapter 1. Modern humans prior to 5,000 years ago are no different from those afterwards. Aklia, Abels sister, that she may bear thee children, who shall replenish the All answers are REVIEWED and MODERATED. I see we agree on a lot, but adam is singular in verses 26 and 27. What Hebrew lexicon did you find your word meanings in? CHAPTER 4. We all are all direct decedents of Adam and Eve which would mean there is absolutely 0% genetic variation between us and them because every person came from the same mother and father, so if they had no ill effects from incest why would we with the same blood? Now how old was cain and Able at the time of the incidence? You may want to look this a flood of tears over his face, and gathered together his children and his If we compare the description of the land of Eden with recent research of the middle east, during the last ice age, we find a match. There is no clear biblical evidence to support the view that Cain and Abel may have been twins. So, Cain married either one of his sisters or one of his nieces, but the word "twin" is not written in Genesis 4:17--24. These same people mock the Faith of billions of people by pretending to be open minded. The ending of Genesis 5:4 does not indicate the timing of the birth of sisters anymore than and was evening and was morning at the end of each creation day, means that they occurred after the events of the day. Douglas McCain, 58; Andrew McCain, 56; Sidney McCain, 51; Meghan McCain, 33. The stories of the OT were meant to teach the faith, they didnt have to actually have happened or happened that way. Adam was the son of God, Eve the flesh of his flesh and his wife. 8 Cainan also grew up, married, and begat Mahalaleel. On the science side: Why did Cain then kill Abel? The known twins of the Bible include the following: Jacob and Esau: These two brothers are certainly the best-known set of twins in Scripture. And remember names of many wife in Genesis are mentioned e.g who did Noah got married to? (Mark 6:20). interestingly, we must know that Adam and Eve was the very first creation of God. Zakar & neqebah are generic terms. Adam wished Cain to marry Abel's twin sister, and Abel to marry Cain's. What was Cain and Abel's brother name? As for me, Ill see the Gods message and truth behind the text whether it literally happened or not. Thats what gets me the most about talking to people about this stuff. (ie man was not created but evolved). Noah the person God choose to save man on earth. The Persian Gulf were created by Noahs flood, an aftermath of the last glacial period. Adam, by Allah's direction, ordered Cain to marry Abel's twin sister, and that Abel should marry Cain's, for it being the common opinion that marriages ought not to take place with those very near akin, such as their own sisters, it seemed reasonable to supose that . You have simply read that into the text. One flowed out of the mountains of western Arabia where there is gold and trees which produce a myrrh like resin. How many twins did Adam and Eve have? did cain have a twin sister. He did not exist. We find genealogies where father and son are literal father and son. If they had no daughters, then humanity would have gone extinct. She looked rather nonchalant & answered, obviously Cains wife came from the people God created in His image in Genesis 1. Of greater significance, however, is that the biblical evidence for this nuptial state in the beginning (Gn. So in other words, you dont know. After the murder of Abel, god asked Cain where his brother Abel Here is the answer, Cain and Abel were not the first children of our first parents, that is Adam and Eve. Cain, the firstborn, was a farmer, and his brother Abel was a shepherd.The brothers made sacrifices to God, but God favored Abel's sacrifice instead of Cain's.Cain then murdered Abel, whereupon God punished Cain by condemning him to a life of wandering. Did Cain have children? In other words, we are told certain details about three sons born to Adam and Eve. Photo: From Charles Foster, The Story of the Bible (1897). Note, marriage can go irrespective of age difference, a man can marry a girl young enough to be their daughter. His family quickly figured it out (Genesis 4:25), so he was likely afraid of what other siblings may try to do. WITHOUT ANY SUPPORTING EVIDENCE HWATSOEVER, YET DEBUNKS ANYONE WHO BELIEVES THE SPARCE EVIDENCE AVAILABLE. Biblical Archaeology Society, "Who Were the Ammonites, Moabites and Edomites in the Bible?" (Gen. 4:14) Only human being are capable of inflicting a punishment! She cannot even name the storyteller. The only alternative to Cain marrying one of his sisters would be if he married a niece: there was plenty of time for one to mature. Genesis was basically a ripoff/redaction of earlier Sumer/Babylonian stories. Cain and Abel.But also note there were other sons and daughters born to Adam and Eve. book of Jubilees (4:2): At the beginning of the third jubilee, Cain killed Abel because the sacrifice of Abel was accepted, but the offering of Cain was not accepted. One can actually answer this question with just a little Bible knowledge. Adam grew out of natural reproduction. The fall is important in this argument because if death and suffering existed before Adams sin, then why did Christ have to come and die? Further, Cain was told to leave the family, after being told, hed be no longer able to take the fruit of the earth from the ground nor the strength of the earth from the Earth. 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